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Anonymous: I was watching a live tutorial of Ful Stop today and I was wondering if the more ambient sounds are coming from Thom's Synth or Ed's guitar. If it is Ed's guitar what effects is he using?? Thanks! Love the site, its so awesome :)

(Note: I use lyrics to reference places in the song, and I apologize if I get any of them wrong.)

The main ambient sounds for the first section of the song are the synth pads, courtesy of Thom on the Prophet 08. He has it set for very long decay and release times, such that he can just hit the chord once and then continue dancing. He stops playing the synth when he starts singing “just to mess you up,” and only again plays the synth again briefly after he finishes singing “all the good times.”

Initially, Ed provides more a counterpoint than an ambient part, playing the fast “riffs” which begin when Thom sings “our love will set you free.” However, he does switch over to playing something more ambient soon after Thom sings “you still ain’t got the message yet.” Ed switches between the riffs and the ambient sounds after Thom starts singing “just to mess you up,” but after the “all the good times” he plays a mix of sudden bursts of sound and quieter ambient parts (in at least one performance, he messes with the Diamond Memory Lane 2’s oscillation during this section).




Anonymous: Hi TKoG! I recently acquired a boss re-20 space echo but i'm not able to emulate Jonny's pitch shifting delays on live versions of in limbo. How does Jonny achieve this effect? Is there someone modulating the repeat rate? Keep up the great job!

The delays themselves actually aren’t pitch shifting. Jonny is bending and sliding the notes, and turning on the delay only for certain ones. I’ve explained it in more detail here. If you listen closely, you can hear that the repeats are of a different pitch than the initial note, but they repeat the same slightly different note due to bending or sliding just before he activates the delay.




Jonny’s Japanese “Omega” Amp is an Orpheum

Thank you to Tim for finding out the true identity of the amplifier!

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Here is a link to a forum post including pictures of an amp that looks identical to Jonny’s, and information about the Orpheum brand.

The amp which was previously identified as an Omega amplifier is actually to be an Orpheum amplifier. Though is look almost exactly like an Omega amp, the logo on it is clearly Orpheum’s.

I suspect that the two amps are identical, Omega and Orpheum being the distributors for different countries (Omega for Japan and Orpheum for the US). Orpheum’s amps were made in Japan during the 1960’s. It is likely that either Omega was the name under which Orpheum sold amps in Japan, or Omega had some sort of deal with Orpheum such that they could sell the amps.

This particular Orpheum is an unusual 6AQ5-based amplifier. 6AQ5 is a specific type of vacuum tube, and the circuit is designed around that tube. Jonny’s Fender 5C1, for example, is based around a 6SJ7, while the Vox AC30 is EL84-based.

The person who posted those pictures on that forum also posted a video of them playing into the amp. You can listen to here.




Jonny’s unknown Hammond organ

Submitted by HJP881

I think his hammond-organ is M-102, atleast it looks like it

Thank you for the submission, I think you’ve found exactly the right model!




Jonny with his Bladder pipe, which he mentioned during his recent appearance on Stuart Maconie’s Freak Zone (audio available during Mary Anne Hobbs’ Music of the Natural World). The instrument is a simple bagpipe originally from medieval Europe, though Jonny’s pipe could have been made recently.

Jonny with his Bladder pipe, which he mentioned during his recent appearance on Stuart Maconie’s Freak Zone (audio available during Mary Anne Hobbs’ Music of the Natural World). The instrument is a simple bagpipe originally from medieval Europe, though Jonny’s pipe could have been made recently.




"It was a Sunday morning, and I had stayed at a friend’s house the night before…I was about 14-years-old and we were just watching videos and talking about girls and things,” says the younger Greenwood. “And I got a call from my lovely brother Colin. ‘We’re rehearsing near where you are now. Have you got your harmonica?’ I said yes, and he said, ‘Well come down right now.’ So I went over…that was the first time really. It was loud and rackety and noisy as hell. It was pretty cool then."
First time Jonny played with the others :’)

(Source: stupidlittleprincess, via ripley312)




Thom’s other pedalboard

Submitted by Sam

On the pedalboard with the HOG, do you think the two pedals with what appear to be red sliders could be MXR Equalizers? 

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Thank you for the submission, Sam! That definitely looks like an MXR Equalizer, which makes a lot more sense as a pedal to have a few of on a side board. Looks like one is being used predominantly as a clean boost, while the other seems to be pushing the low-mids but lowering the high-mids.




Anonymous: your site says jonny's 85 is mic'ed with an om3 / om5. which one is correct? i'm sure i've seen an image of the mic itself and it says om5 on it. cant find the image though. graham the sound engineer did specify on his myspace blog but his posts have disappeared completely.

I’m currently going with OM3, as specified by this MIX article. That said, I have come to distrust articles, preferring actual pictures of his setup.

In the early 90’s, Thom used an OM5 or OM7 as a vocal mic. Perhaps that is the OM5 that you saw?

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Here is the video of Dan of theGigRig explaining Ed’s new board, then discussing it with Ed himself. The following is a thorough rundown of the setup.

Pedalboard

  • Pedaltrain Grande

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Signal Path

Signal order:

(Note that due to him using a switching unit, the actual position of the pedal’s on Ed’s board does not correspond to their position in his signal chain. They are arranged in the way that they are solely in order to fit them all onto the board.)

Guitar -> theGigRig Cinco Cinco Patchbay -> Fulltone Clyde Wah -> theGigRig G2* -> outputs 1/2/3
1. (Earth) -> Cinco Cinco Out1 -> Amp 1
2. (Iso) -> Cinco Cinco Out2 -> Amp 2
3. (Dry) -> theGigRig Hum Dinger - Cinco Cinco Out3 -> Amp 3

*theGigRig G2

  • TC Electronic Polytune 2 (tuner out - note the lack of any cables connected to the output)
  1. Dinosaural Opticompressor
  2. Klon Centaur
  3. CSL Super Fuzz
  4. Wampler Euphoria
    (Changed from the Crowther Hotcake after the board was “finished.”)
  5. Digitech Whammy V
  6. Diamond Tremolo (in a custom color)
  7. MXR Flanger + Remote Loopy 2
    (Ed turns off the Flanger to use the other effects, or can use both.)
  • (Volume Insert) Send -> Boss FV500 -> theGigRig Hum Dinger -> Vol Insert Return + Cinco Cinco Output 3

      8. Eventide H9 (likely used mainly as a reverb)
      9. Strymon Timeline (used as a looper and delay)
      10. EHX Deluxe Memory Man
    G2 Output 1 (Mono) -> Cinco Cinco Output 1
    G2 Output 2 -> Cinco Cinco Output 2

The Remote Loopy two is meant to allow Ed to play with new effects without having to pull the board apart. However, the main effects which will likely be used in the loops are the following:

  • Fulltone Tube Tape Echo
  • Korg A2(?)


Switching and Control Units, etc

  • Molten Voltage OZ (controls Strymon Timeline)
  • Molten Voltage Molten MIDI 5 (controls Digitech Whammy WH5)

  • theGigRig G2
  • G2 Bank Up Switch
  • theGigRig Remote Loopy 2

  • theGigRig Cinco Cinco Patchbay


Power Supply

  • theGigRig Modular Power Supply

    -Generator (supplies the power)

    -Distributor (sends power to the two isolators and the other adapters (such as Time Lord))

    -Distributor

    -Isolator (powers most of the pedals)
    
-Isolator
    -9V Virtual Battery (for CSL Super Fuzz)
    -Doubler (for MXR Flanger)
    
-Time Lord (for Strymon Timeline)

    -Time Lord (for Digitech Whammy)

    -ElectroMan (for EHX Deluxe Memory Man)

    -Evenflo (for Eventide H9)

Cables

  • Evidence Audio SIS Solderless Cables (Cut by Dan of theGigRig to custom lengths.)

Pedal Settings
Marked as o’clock times. For example, a setting of 12 would be right in the center (pointing up) of the knob’s sweep, just as the hour hand would be at noon on a clock.

Dinosaural Opticompressor
Gain - 10:30
Presence - 12:30
Input Switch - 0db

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Klon Centaur
Gain - 9 OR 1
Treble - 12
Output - 9:30

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Crowther Hotcake
Level 1
Presence 1
Drive 1

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Wampler Euphoria
Tone - 11
Bass - 8
Volume - 11:30
Gain - 11:45
Voicing - Open

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Diamond Tremolo
Speed - 2:45
Depth - 3:15
Vol - 2
Mode - Eighth Note
Waveform - Chop

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MXR Flanger
Manual 1
Width 11
Speed 12:30
Regen 5

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EHX Deluxe Memory Man
(These are relative to how the knobs work, rather than how they look from the front of the pedal.)
Level 11
Blend 2
Feedback 3
Delay 1:30
Chorus/Vibrato 8:30

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The Strymon Timeline and Eventide H9 store settings in banks of presets. As such, the front of the Timeline can not be trusted to show its actual settings.

Other Pedals
Many other effects are visible around the room. Most might have been tested by Ed, but considering the nature of theGigRig that generally cannot be assumed. However, at one point there are a couple of pedals on a box right next to Ed which he likely brought along. Those were a Spaceman Effects WOW Signal and a Spaceman Effects Gemini III. Other effects visible, but which may be owned by Dan or others (they’re on the shelf), include a Boss SD1, an Eventide unit, a Boss Tremolo Pan(?), and a Fulltone Fulldrive 2.

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Another board is also visible at one point. It looks to have been the board which originally featured the Whammy V, making This board features Boss TR2, Digitech Synth Wah, an unknown pedal, and two Remote Loopy 2's.

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Photos via theGigRig’s Facebook Page.

Pedalboard

  • Pedaltrain Grande

Effects Pedals
   
Approximate signal order:
(Note that due to him using a switching unit, the actual position of the pedal’s on Ed’s board does not correspond to their position in his signal chain. They are arranged in the way that they are solely in order to fit them all onto the board.)

  • TC Electronic Polytune 2 (tuner out - note the lack of an cable connected to the output)
  • Boss FV500 (volume insert - theGigRig G2 has the ability to place the volume pedal anywhere in Ed’s signal path.)
  1. CSL Super Fuzz
  2. Fulltone Clyde Wah
  3. Crowther Hotcake
  4. Klon Centaur
  5. Dinosaural Opticompressor
  6. Diamond Tremolo (in a custom color)
  7. MXR Flanger
  8. Digitech Whammy V
  9. EHX Deluxe Memory Man
  10. Strymon Timeline (used as a looper and delay)
  11. Eventide H9 (likely used mainly as a delay/reverb)

(theGigRig G2 only has 10 effects loops, so one of these pedals must not be in a loop. I suspect either the Super Fuzz, the Cylde, the Timeline, or the H9.)

Ed also uses a Remote Loopy 2 to access the following:

  • Fulltone Tube Tape Echo
  • Korg A2(?)

Switching and Control Units, etc

  • Molten Voltage OZ (controls Strymon Timeline)
  • Molten Voltage Molten MIDI 5 (controls Digitech Whammy WH5)

  • theGigRig G2
  • G2 Bank Up Switch
  • theGigRig Remote Loopy 2

  • theGigRig Cinco Cinco Patchbay

Power Supply and Related

  • theGigRig Hum Dinger

  • theGigRig Modular Power Supply
    -Generator (supplies the power)
    -Distributor (sends power to the two isolators and the other adapters (such as Time Lord))
    -Distributor
    -Isolator (powers most of the pedals)
    -Isolator
    -Time Lord (for Strymon Timeline)
    -Time Lord
    -Doubler (for MXR Flanger
    -ElectroMan (for EHX Deluxe Memory Man
    -Evenflo (for Eventide H9)



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